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Species survives without genetic variation

Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:20 PM EDT
science, dna, genetic-diversity
By Paddy Ryan
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A Brazilian daily newspaper (Folha de Sao Paulo) has an article today about the discovery of a small population of preas (a small mammal of the Cavia intermedia species) in an island in Santa Catarina, a Southern state of Brazil. In an area of less than one hectare, approximately 40 of these animals have been living in isolation for 8.000 years (according to researchers from the Pontifica Universidade Catolica of Rio Grande do Sul). The interesting thing is that there is practically no DNA diversity in this population. They have been practising "incest" left and right, but are none the worse for it!

Sandro Bonatto, a geneticist, states: "According to classic patterns, they should be dead. These animals could change our understanding of the biology of small populations"

If you can read Portuguese, here'sthe full article.

Here's a rough translations, courtesy of Google, linked to by Karl (see comment #1.3 below). I've corrected one or two details, but it's still a rough and unpolished translation. It will give you the gist of the article anyway, with no factual errors (I've checked the translation)

Brazilian researchers found a species that, after 8000 years alone maintaining a population of about 40 individuals, has almost no more genetic diversity.

The animals are so similar between them that a test of paternity through DNA, as used in humans, would not be feasible between them.

The island of Santa Catarina preas live very well, thanks, in an area equivalent to that of a football field - less than one hectare. By traditional genetic theories, it should be long extinct.

"It seems clearly to be the most extreme known case of a species living so long with a population so small," says geneticist Sandro Bonatto, the PUC (Pontificia Universidade Catolica) of Rio Grande do Sul

"By traditional standards, it could not be alive. These animals may change our understanding of the biology of small populations."

The researchers found the animals in the islands of the archipelago of Moleques do Sul, 8 km from the southern tip of the island of Florianopolis.

The species, Cavia intermedia, is the cousin of the preas that live on the coast of the continent, Cavia magna. One possibility is that, after the last ice age, about 8000 years, when sea level rose, they were separated.

The few isolated individuals have then created a new species, which over time has adapted to the conditions of the island: little space, low vegetation and no predator.

The limited space resulted in a small population. The island is about ten hectares, but much of the terrain is rocky. There remains for the preas a tenth of that area with grass. The low vegetation made them become smaller than their cousins, who have access to more food.

The preas are the only mammals on the island. The absence of predators, coupled with the stability of the local climate, apparently no natural disaster happened in recent times - has allowed them to have millennia of peace.

Scientists know that the population was never large because they are all genetically similar, as if all the species were one big family.

To verify the genetic proximity between preas, the group of Bonatto used the same type of DNA test used in paternity tests.

"It is one of the lowest genetic diversity observed in the animal kingdom," says Ricardo Kanitz, also of the PUCRS.

Incest is therefore common. In humans, children of relatives may born with some types of deformation.

It is not the case with these animals: as the population is very small, the crossings that could generate defective puppies already happened and the alleles (versions of the same gene) that could cause problems have been eliminated by natural selection.

It is normal, therefore, that a baby be the son of brothers.

These deformations are not frequent enough to extinguish a species, but the lack of them is a sign that the preas have adapted to survival in a small group.

Threats

As any small and isolated group, however, the animals are at risk. The island is within the State Park of Serra do Tabuleiro, which should limit access to it. But in practice, it doesn't.

"Some fishermen go there, and use it as a basis for work. The danger is releasing a cat, a dog or something unintentionally, and extinguishing the preas," says Bonatto.

Besides run away cats, possible natural disasters also offer danger to preas. "A hurricane, for example, could kill everyone," says Bonatto.

And one has already happened in 2004. Besides Bonatto and Kanitz, Carlos Salvador participated in the work, then at the Federal University of Santa Catarina.

Unlike preas, all species with few individuals known up to today were going in the direction of death, either natural, or by humans.

"Some studies say that a species, to survive in the long term, should be at least 500 individuals," Kanitz said. "Perhaps the preas will provide important lessons for conservation strategies," agrees Bonatto.

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Paddy Ryan

I don't know much about DNA (well, alright, I know hardly anything about it :-), but thought this was interesting.

Cheers.

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:22 PM EDT
bitemore

It is VERY interesting! Thanks for posting it!

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:42 PM EDT
Paddy Ryan

Cheers, bitemore :-)

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:25 PM EDT
Karl_

Thanks for this article.

Perhaps this Google-translated page can help. Could a Portugese speaking reader let us know if this rough translation is OK?

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:27 PM EDT
dungbeetlemania

That's a good idea, thanks Karl_. I particularly liked this line:

The island of Santa Catarina preás live very well, thanks, in an area equivalent to that of a football field

Very polite, Google translate :)

I would guess that the entire population comes from either a pregnant female or a male and female pair who survived getting washed to the island somehow. Although there are no predators, it seems that life is hard enough for them that they have not denuded their island of food, which is also quite surprising.

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:08 PM EDT
Paddy Ryan

Karl, I was born and live in Brazil. The translation is accurate enough. Thanks for posting the link here.

Seeing there is some interest in the article, I've taken the translation you linked to (furnished by Google) and corrected the most glaring mistakes. It's now appended to my original article. It's readable, but still a very rough translation. If you need any phrase cleared up, elt me know.

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:45 PM EDT
Paddy Ryan

The island of Santa Catarina preás live very well, thanks, in an area equivalent to that of a football field

Very polite, Google translate :)

Dungbeetle, that sounds funny in English, but it's a common idiom in Portuguese. When someone should be in a terrible state, but actually isn't, it's quite common to say: "I'm doing well, thank you", as if to mean: "I'm doing very well, even though you probably thought I wasn't!" It's a sort of cheeky, sarcastic way of answering a question that is probably not sincere.

Don't know if that makes sense :-)

Cheers.

  • 4 votes
#1.6 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:50 PM EDT
Ryan Booker

That's common in English too, at least down here at the arse end.

    #1.7 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:01 PM EDT
    Paddy Ryan

    Ryan, would you mind explaining to this gringo where on earth the "arse end" is? I mean, in the context you mentioned it. Cheers, and excuse my ignorance :-)

      #1.8 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:07 PM EDT
      Ryan Booker

      Australia. We tend to be sarcastic. :)

        #1.9 - Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:27 PM EDT
        Paddy Ryan

        I'll have to visit Australia, then. Cheers.

          #1.10 - Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:08 PM EDT
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          rwarner

          Wow, that is amazing!! What a find!

          • 2 votes
          Reply#2 - Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:02 PM EDT
          StarSmiles

          Aint that a field rat ,got those here too ,and ground hogs , squirrels ,I wouldnt encourage feeding these animals ,but I wouldnt do them harm either .They have their purpose on earth too .

          • 2 votes
          Reply#3 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:09 AM EDT
          Paddy Ryan

          Robin and Star, the interesting thing in this story is that this small population, with practically no DNA diversity, has survived for so long. Classical genetics posit that 500 individuals is the necessary number for a species to survive, whereas these 40 preas have been surviving for 8.000 years. For them, it is natural for a little prea to be born from his own siblings!

          Can't make head or tail of this :-)

          • 3 votes
          #3.1 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:36 AM EDT
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          dungbeetlemania

          That is quite amazing, I must say. Very unusual indeed.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#4 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:48 AM EDT
          Paddy Ryan

          It will be interesting to see how this develops, as other scientists start considering this uncommon happening. As I said, I'm quite ignorant of this area of knowledge, but I'll be keeping an eye open!

          • 2 votes
          #4.1 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:25 AM EDT
          spiffie

          While it is interesting, and a study of the dynamics of evolution within such a small population might indeed provide additional insights, it's hardly the only example of a species surviving with little (or no) genetic diversity. A more extreme example is the Desert Grassland Whiptail lizard, a species that now has all females members, and reproduces via parthogenesis. Essentially, each offspring is a clone of its mother.

          • 4 votes
          #4.2 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:29 PM EDT
          Paddy Ryan

          Spiffie, never heard of those lizards. Do you have a link where we can read more about them?

          Cheers, and thanks.

          • 2 votes
          #4.3 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:38 PM EDT
          spiffie

          Wikipedia; Reptiles of Arizona; a Daily Texan article.

          • 4 votes
          #4.4 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:01 PM EDT
          SS-CA

          http://www.reptilesofaz.com/Lizards-Subpages/h-a-uniparens.html

          Ha, spiffie beat me to it.

          Very interesting though, both cases are.

          • 4 votes
          #4.5 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:07 PM EDT
          Paddy Ryan

          Spiffie and SS-CA, thanks for the links. Cheers.

          • 1 vote
          #4.6 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:30 PM EDT
          Darkwood

          Arrrgh, spiffie, don't let word of parthenogenesis get around. My wife already thinks I'm useless.

          • 2 votes
          #4.7 - Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:28 AM EDT
          phoenixrising

          Darkwood, that's too damn funny ; )

          • 2 votes
          #4.8 - Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:50 AM EDT
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          SolarGlare

          Theres 2 interesting parts to this:

          First is that there is (apparently) not a large amount of genetic deformations in the animals. Often when siblings or close relatives breed, there are lots of genetic problems with the child.

          Second is that the species hasn't been destroyed by disease. If the aniimals all have similar DNA, then their resistance to disease is almost identical, meaning a disease would usually be able to wipe out the entire species.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#5 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:55 AM EDT
          Paddy Ryan

          Solar, thanks for the input. The article stresses that this population has been isolated for quite a while. Still, it's amazing that they haven't been destroyed by disease, as you say.

          Cheers.

          • 2 votes
          #5.1 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:37 AM EDT
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          phoenixrising

          This is quite intresting, a perfect species of land mammals.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#6 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:12 AM EDT
          Paddy Ryan

          Land-mammals isolated on an iLand :-)

          • 1 vote
          #6.1 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:43 AM EDT
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          Ivan Pavlov

          Without genetic variation, a population cannot evolve in response to gradual environmental changes, e.g. climate/habitat changes, diseases, etc. This is why low genetic diversity may spell the end of a species. I believe this particular mammal has found itself in an unusually stable environment during the last 8000 years and that's why it survived.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#7 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:12 AM EDT
          Paddy Ryan

          Ivan, that is (I believe) the accepted truth today -- which is what makes this story all the stranger. The mammals are isolated on an island -- but it's on an archipelago only 8 km from Florianópolis, a city with over 400 thousand inhabitants. Fishermen visit the island regularly. They aren't all that isolated! So how did they survive?

          Cheers, and thanks for stopping by -- I know your more knowledgeable than me on this subject.

          • 2 votes
          #7.1 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:51 AM EDT
          Ryan Booker

          Well, it doesn't really matter if they are visited. Isolation is more to do with genetic isolation, and as long as the environmental and other factors effecting them have remained relatively stable, they don't need the adaptive power of genetic variation.

          It seems more interesting to me that they aren't all drooling and running into each other.

          :)

          • 1 vote
          #7.2 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:04 PM EDT
          Paddy Ryan

          I mentioned the "visiting" thing thinking of possible diseases, infection, or other things that might interfere with their habitat. But, as I said, I'm not very well versed in this area :-)

          • 1 vote
          #7.3 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:11 PM EDT
          Ryan Booker

          You're right, that could make a difference. I just guess it didn't. :)

          • 1 vote
          #7.4 - Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:28 PM EDT
          Paddy Ryan

          Maybe the island is like hospitals in N Ireland -- they have ladies at the entrance offering you free spray to clean your hands. Cuts down hospital infections :-)

            #7.5 - Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:12 PM EDT
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            bitemore

            Inbreeding is risky, but only where one of the individuals has a genetic flaw. It could then pass this flaw to a percentage of offspring, who would then increase the risk of passing it along to additional individuals. If the gene is dominant, only one copy needs to be passed down, and it would be expressed by any individual receiving it. If it is a lethal gene, then the recipient would die. If the gene is recessive, it would require two copies to be expressed, wheich means the first recipient wouldn't be aware of having that gene. If that recipient then paired with another recipient, then 2 copies would be passed to some of the offspring, which would then express the gene. If a lethal gene, that recipient (of two copies) would die.

            If, however, none of the animals have any "bad" genes, then inbreeding isn't going to make some where none existed before. Random mutations are always possible - and this is where those isolated mammals are really amazing, in that they haven't had any random mutations - but not all mutations are necessarily bad. If the mutation is a desired one, then the only way to pass it into a species is through inbreeding.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#8 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:51 PM EDT
            Paddy Ryan

            Random mutations are always possible - and this is where those isolated mammals are really amazing,

            That's the point, I suppose -- eight thousand years with no random mutations? Lucky or what? :-)

            • 2 votes
            #8.1 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:38 PM EDT
            dungbeetlemania

            Or 8000 years where all mutations that did occur were either hevaily selected against, or heavily selected for.

            • 3 votes
            #8.2 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:00 PM EDT
            Paddy Ryan

            Good point.

            • 1 vote
            #8.3 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:22 PM EDT
            bitemore

            Imagine the odds of any mutation being selected for or against without leaving a trace of the original in at least one individual (of course, I don't know if all animals in the colony were tested, but the article made it appear as though a large sample was tested). Now, if there were NO dominant genes, and the animals are made up only of recessive genes, then there is no way to tell if there ever were any dominant genes with some other trait; that being the case, then all the animals would likely end up with little, if any, genetic variation. For those who don't understand very basic genetics, here is an example: say that black fur is dominant, and white fur is recessive. It is possible for the animal to express black fur (actually have black fur) if it has either two dominant genes, or one dominant and one recessive gene. It cannot express black fur if it has two recessive genes: it would then have white fur, and all its offspring would have white fur if it mated with another white-furred animal.

            That is a very simple example, but it isn't hard to work out how it may be possible for a colony to have all recessive genes, but the odds certainly don't favor it. Genes are responsible for every single aspect of an organism, so it's mind-boggling to think of how any species can have very little diversity.

            It is still bizarre.

            • 1 vote
            #8.4 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:25 PM EDT
            SolarGlare

            Question Bitemore:

            Are genes only recessive or dominant, or are they relatively dominant?

            To your hair example: If an animal has a black and brown hair gene, black is dominant and brown is recessive. If an animal has a brown and a white, brown is dominant and white is recessive. Black > Brown and white, white < Brown and black?

            The reasoning behind my question is this: If genes are relatively dominant, then there would still be variation within species, because the more dominant-recessive genes would be expressed sometimes, while other times the recessive-recessive genes would...

            Hope that makes sense...

              #8.5 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:46 PM EDT
              phoenixrising

              Solarglare, I'm not sure what you are implying but no is the answer to your questions not all traits are inherited as dominant or recessive.

              • 2 votes
              #8.6 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:05 PM EDT
              SolarGlare

              Okay, let me try this again then...

              Are some genes more dominant or more recessive than others? If so, then a lack of genetic diversity would mean truly few genes, not just few dominant genes.

              • 1 vote
              #8.7 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:36 PM EDT
              phoenixrising

              No Solarglare, that's not right. We inherit a set of genes from our mother and a set from our father, like blood type.

              Blood type can be B, A O or AB, because A is not dominant to B they are co-dominant which means that both are expressed.

              Dominant and recessive traits are traits like eye color where brown is dominant to blue. So if you inherit the allele for brown eyes from your mother and blue from your father your eyes will be brown.

              Diversity is reflected in a brown eye/AB blood type person shuffling their genes to produce a blue eye/B person (the Blue allele was originally inherited with the A allele). Thus diversity occurs via crossover events or genetic mutation.

              • 3 votes
              #8.8 - Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:02 PM EDT
              bitemore

              Solar: I'm wondering if you are thinking of linkage, where one gene is "linked" to another in such a way that if one is expressed, the other will be, too, and the linked gene may be a recessive linked to a dominant. An example might be the brown-eye/blue eye genes as Phoenix described above, but in my example the dominant brown eye might be linked to a recessive for red hair so that if you get the one you will also get the other. I know this kind of linkage is responsible for some nasty inherited diseases, where a desired trait is linked to a lethal one.

              There are so many subtleties in genetics like the "crossover" that Phoenix mentioned, and I'm not a geneticist, by any stretch. I used to breed rats and mice, and learned from them much of what I know. It is possible for one partner to have particular genes that have no equivalent in the mate, which will then result in a reversion to "wild type" (what I call the default) in the offspring. One example might be mating an "albino" colored rat (which is a pure recessive color) to a black-coated rat (which is not only the dominant, but in my example the black-coated has one dominant for black and one recessive for "lilac", meaning no recessive for albino exists for coat color in this animal). Well, in the offspring, some will be black, but where the offspring receives one recessive for albino and one recessive for lilac, you have a situation where you will end up with the wild color (agouti) because there are no other options. I don't pretend to understand this, but I know from breeding that this is what happens. It would indicate some linkage to something somewhere, but I don't know what it may be. I'm kinda sorry I don't breed the animals any longer, because it was fun, especially where you didn't know the pedigree, and therefore didn't know what to expect from a given pairing.

              • 1 vote
              #8.9 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:48 AM EDT
              phoenixrising

              Seems I lost Solarglare, I didn't mean to. Maybe another time and place : )

                #8.10 - Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:58 PM EDT
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                StarSmiles

                This is an intresting post and the comments are very enlightening , add insight to how DNA and all works ,I will admt it is over my head ,it is rewarding to read and understand more about it .

                • 2 votes
                Reply#9 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:39 AM EDT
                Celestina

                Very interesting. The only species I know of other than this with such a low genetic variance is the cheetah

                Cheetahs are very inbred. They are so inbred, that genetically they are almost identical.

                source

                though it sounds like perhaps the preas genetic isolation comes from a different root, and it's fascinating that it has survived. There have got to be some valuable lessons, there.

                  Reply#10 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:25 PM EDT
                  Paddy Ryan

                  Celestina, thanks for the info regarding the cheetahs.

                  there have got to be some valuable lessons, there.

                  I was hoping someone more knowledgeable would point us toward something :-)

                  Cheers.

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.1 - Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:29 PM EDT
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                  iarnuocon

                  Sorry, I'm going to have to call bull@!$%# on this article. What we have is a loose translation of a popular article which sensationalizes a decade-old find and blatantly misstates some facts. Cavia intermedia was discovered on the San Catarina Island in 1999. According to this article from 2008, their capture efforts over 16 months yielded at least 141 individuals, not 40.

                  I'm in the middle of packing for a trip, or I'd research this more, but I'd judge just from that glaring inconsistency, that either the reporter misinterpreted what the researcher said, or the researcher was hyping the findings. At any rate, the claim that the population has only been 40 individuals for 8,000 years is a bit much to swallow. Currently, it's mere speculation that they've been there for 8000 years. As the article itself notes, the Island is not isolated from human traffic-- it's possible that these rodents have been on that island a lot less time than that.

                  There's just way too much speculation, here, for anyone to take this article as particularly meaningful of anything.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#11 - Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:27 PM EDT
                  Paddy Ryan

                  Iarnuocon,

                  If the article I linked to is merely speculative, I'll thank you for helping us find out. However, is there not an internal inconsistency in the article you linked to, from 2008? First they say they found 141 individuals, as you mentioned, but further down they talk about an "average estimated population of 42 individuals". So is it 141 or 42? A typo somewhere?

                  I'll try and research this also - maybe some Brazilian publications have more info. If you or someone else can find anything, please let us know.

                  Cheers.

                  • 3 votes
                  #11.1 - Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:23 PM EDT
                  Paddy Ryan

                  Well, I looked into this a little, and I think that Iarnuocon's criticism isn't valid.

                  First, the accusation of sensationalising a decade-old discovery isn't true. Cavia intermedia was discovered in 1999, but the article is not about their discovery, it's about DNA testing and it's surprising results on this species.

                  Second, as to "blatantly misstating some facts", it seems Iarnuocon mixed things up. The 141 individuals captured over 17 months, mentioned above, were not the population of cavia on any single date, but the total amount of captured cavia over the 17 month period. As their life-expectancy is short ("between 2.4 and 16 months"), many cavia captured at one point during the months-long research would be dead by the end of the research. The article claims that average population was 42, which agrees with the article I linked to. (Most information from this paragraph comes from this site. I couldn't check the life-expectancy, mentioned in Google's synopsis of the article -- if someone has access to the full article and can check it out, I'd appreciate it).

                  The question of population is confirmed by the IUCN web-site, which lists cavia intermedia in it's red-list "because the number of remaining mature individuals of this species is estimated to be approximately 42".

                  • 2 votes
                  #11.2 - Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:13 PM EDT
                  Paddy Ryan

                  Found two pdf's on the Internet with details about the research done on the island in 2208:

                  REPRODUCTION AND GROWTH OF A RARE, ISLAND-ENDEMIC CAVY (CAVIA INTERMEDIA) FROM SOUTHERN BRAZIL

                  POPULATION DYNAMICS AND CONSERVATION STATUS OF THE INSULAR CAVY CAVIA INTERMEDIA (RODENTIA: CAVIIDAE) (the complete version of the original article Iarnuocon linked to).

                  Very interesting reading, and they confirm that 141 individuals were analysed during the 17 month research, but that the average population at any given time was 42. They also present their reasons for suggesting that the cavys have been isolated for 8.000 years.

                  Cheers.

                  • 2 votes
                  #11.3 - Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:38 PM EDT
                  iarnuocon

                  Well, I'm now safely ensconced in a hotel with a spotty internet connection, so I'll dig around a bit.

                  Yeah, more info here from IUCN--

                  Salvador and Fernandez (2008) studied the population dynamics of this species between March 2004 and June 2005 using monthly capture–mark–recapture sampling methods and radio telemetry. Over 5,530 trap-nights, there were 665 captures of 141 individuals. The minimum population was 24, and maximum population was 60, in a sample year with 42 as the sample average. The population had a high and stable density, stable age structure with mostly adults, small home ranges, and high rates of survival.

                  My bad. They're sampling the population and making an estimate, which they've pegged at about 40. Good on you for linking to other research, as well.

                  Here are some problems I have with the report in the daily paper (the one you translated), and I'll just go from your paragraph summary, at first, since it nicely ties up a number of the calims--

                  A Brazilian daily newspaper (Folha de Sao Paulo) has an article today about the discovery of a small population of preas (a small mammal of the Cavia intermedia species) in an island in Santa Catarina, a Southern state of Brazil. These animals were not "just discovered." As I said, they've been known about since 1999.

                  In an area of less than one hectare, approximately 40 of these animals have been living in isolation for 8.000 years (according to researchers from the Pontifica Universidade Catolica of Rio Grande do Sul). In point of fact, the research you've linked to just above directly contradicts this claim. These cavies live on approximately 6.3 hectares, or about 60% of the island.

                  The interesting thing is that there is practically no DNA diversity in this population. What's meant by the phrase "DNA diversity"? It's not apparent from the translation of the article. I'm fairly certain that we don't have full genome workups of Cavia Magna, much less of Cavia Intermedia to compare to it.

                  They have been practising "incest" left and right, but are none the worse for it! I'd say it's awfully early to be making that claim, especially in light of the fact that this is the first apparent foray into exploring their genetics.

                  From further down, in the translated article itself, additional misleading claims are made by the article--

                  By traditional standards, it could not be alive. Going by Population Dynamics and Conservation Status of the Insular Cavy Cavia Intermedia (Rodentia: Caviidae), this is more than an unusual claim. Salvador and Fernandez note that

                  this insular population would be expected to express some particular regulatory and demographic characteristics, known as the insular syndrome (Adler and Levins 1994). The insular syndrome includes demographic characteristics such as high and stable population densities, small home ranges, high survival rates, and small variance in age structure, with the population being mostly comprised of adult individuals (Adler and Levins 1994; Gliwicz 1980).

                  In fact, Salvador and Fernandez found exactly these conditions. So I'm more than a little unclear at the meaning behind Bonatto's statement, which certainly strikes me as sensationalistic, even if it doesn't strike you that way.

                  The few isolated individuals have then created a new species, which over time has adapted to the conditions of the island: little space, low vegetation and no predator. Again, this claim misrepresents the facts. The vegetation is low because of overexploitation by the cavies, and while the island lacks the predators normally associated with cavies on the mainland, three different types of raptors prey on Cavia Intermedia on this island, with an additional two (the peregrine falcon and a type of owl) assumed to be, but currently unobserved as, predators.

                  Fnally, the article makes a lot of claims about how impossible it would be for these cavies to survive with such "low" genetic diversity, but then goes on to explain exactly how that could happen-- and the explanation doesn't stray very far from what I'd expect you'd find in most textbooks.

                  So I'm going to stick with my original assessment-- this article isn't very useful for actually learning anything about this species, although the other information that you've unearthed has been very informative. This is an interesting species precisely because the population is so small, and it will be interesting to see what comes out of any study of their genetics.

                  But it's more than a little early to be claiming that "they shouldn't be alive, but are!!!"

                  And this--First, the accusation of sensationalising a decade-old discovery isn't true. Cavia intermedia was discovered in 1999, but the article is not about their discovery, it's about DNA testing and it's surprising results on this species.-- Let me just point out that you've summarised the article as saying A Brazilian daily newspaper (Folha de Sao Paulo) has an article today about the discovery of a small population of preas (a small mammal of the Cavia intermedia species) in an island in Santa Catarina, a Southern state of Brazil. Your translation of the article states Brazilian researchers found a species... The researchers found the animals in the islands of the archipelago... The Google-translated page makes the same claims.

                  You'll forgive me if, therefore, I suggest the article claims these scientists "discovered" a species we've known about for ten years. It is most certainly what the article suggests. And I think when the flaws of the article are taken as a whole, one has to view its conclusions with caution. It isn't what I'd call the pinnacle of science-reporting (although I'm glad you posted it anyway).

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                  #11.4 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:16 AM EDT
                  Paddy Ryan

                  Iarnuocon, thanks for the follow-up.

                  Cheers.

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                  #11.5 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:54 PM EDT
                  iarnuocon

                  No problem. Thanks for posting this. I found it very interesting.

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                  #11.6 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:20 PM EDT
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                  Translation of article:

                  Brazilian researchers found a species that, after 8000 years alone maintaining a population of about 40 individuals, almost has no more genetic diversity.

                  The animals are so similar between them that a test of paternity through DNA, as used in humans, it would be possible between them.

                  The island of Santa Catarina preás living very well, thanks, in an area equivalent to that of a football field - less than one hectare. By traditional genetic theories, it should be long extinct.
                  Carlos Salvador / Parque Estadual da Serra do Board
                  Prea male kids of the South Island, located in Florianópolis, is one of about 40 animals identified by researchers
                  Prea male kids of the South Island, located in Florianópolis, is one of about 40 animals identified by researchers

                  "It seems clearly to be the most extreme known case of a species living so long with a population so small," says geneticist Sandro Bonatto, the PUC (Pontificia Universidade Católica) of Rio Grande do Sul

                  "By traditional standards, it could not be alive. These animals may change our understanding of the biology of small populations."

                  The researchers found the animals in the islands of an archipelago of kids South, 8 km from the southern tip of the island of Florianopolis.

                  The species, Cavia intermedia, is the pre press that is on the coast of the continent, Cavia magna. One possibility is that, after the last ice age, about 8000 years, when sea level rose, they have separated.

                  The few isolated individuals have then created a new species, which over time has adapted to the conditions of the island: little space, low vegetation and no predator.

                  The limited space resulted in a small population. The island is about ten hectares, but much of the terrain is rocky. Sobra preás for a tenth that in an area with grass. The low vegetation with which they were made smaller than their cousins, who have access to more food.

                  The preás are the only mammals on the island. The absence of predators, coupled with the stability of the local climate, apparently no natural disaster happened in recent times-there, has millennia of peace.

                  Scientists know that the population was never large because they are all genetically similar, as all the species were a big family.

                  To verify the genetic proximity between preás, the group of Bonatto used the same type of DNA test used in paternity tests.

                  "It is one of the lowest genetic diversity observed in the animal kingdom," says Ricardo Kanitz, also of the PUCRS.

                  The incest is therefore common. In humans, children of relatives may born with some types of deformation.

                  It is not the case in animals: as the population is very small, the crossings that could generate defective puppies already happened and the alleles (versions of the same gene) that could cause problems have been eliminated by natural selection.

                  It is, therefore, that a baby is the son of brothers.

                  These deformations are not frequent enough to extinguish a species, but the lack of them is a sign that the preás have adapted to survival in a small group.

                  Threats

                  As a small and isolated, however, the animals are at risk. The island is within the State Park of Serra's Board, which should limit access to it. But in practice, it is not.

                  "Some fishermen go there, use as a basis for work. The danger is releasing a cat, a dog or something without wanting to break up and he preás," says Bonatto.

                  Besides cats run away, possible natural disasters also offer danger to preás. "A hurricane, for example, could kill everyone," says Bonatto.

                  And one has already happened in 2004. Besides Bonatto and Kanitz, Carlos Salvador participated in the work, then at the Federal University of Santa Catarina.

                  Unlike preás, all species with few individuals were seen today in the direction of death, was natural, was by humans.

                  "Some studies say that a species, to survive in the long term, should be at least 500 individuals," Kanitz said. "Perhaps the preás provide important lessons for conservation strategies," agrees Bonatto.

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                  Reply#12 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:54 AM EDT
                  spaceyhippie

                  sharks n ants
                  are virtually indistinguishable
                  from their dinosaur era contemporaries
                  they achieved environmental perfection
                  but did they lose adaptability

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                  #12.1 - Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:43 AM EDT
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                  StarSmiles

                  Very interesting , so much has been added since I was last here , with twenty votes and and fifty six comments ,all of which is positive ,I would vote this one double for being educational as well as reader friendly .smiles

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                  Reply#13 - Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:11 PM EDT
                  Paddy Ryan

                  StarSmiles, thanks for the smile :-)

                  Cheers.

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                  #13.1 - Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:47 AM EDT
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